Everything Else (Music related) • Re: completely A.I. generated songs with singing are here (Udio)

Why do you want to know those details? It has nothing to do with the point made.

Of course it does - you use keyboard and a mouse, precisely the same tools you use to interact with the AI, thereby proving that your comment is ridiculous.

Not at all. Milli Vanilli proved that years ago.

So why all the fuss?

So? Radio does that too but i don't turn on the radio and say I "made" the song that's playing.

That's because no radio station is ever going to play any song you make. It take hundreds of people to make a movie but only one person, the director, is credited as having made that film. Directors alone are called "film makers" because it is their artistic/creative vision which brings the film to life. Similarly, an AI might be the tool that creates the song but there is always a creative/artistic person wielding their keyboard, creating the prompts to realise their vision for the piece.

If you have a problem with me getting my panties all wet because someone claims they "made" a song by typing text on a screen versus using human creative faculties well that's just too bad for you.

Is it now? I think anyone reading this discussion would see quite plainly that it's you who has the problem. You think that what you have is somehow special and it irks you that a computer program can do it better than you can. Get over yourself, you are not special in any way.

Glad I'm doing something right. I'd be depressed if there was the possibility of a 60 something year old virgin liking my stuff.

Yes, I'm sure your target market is 40 year old nerds who still live in their mother's basements.

Novakill's intuitive creative talent is all with your band mate.

You do understand that my bandmate spends about 6 hours a day in front of various AI interfaces, right? That the videoclip for our current single was made by him, using AI, right? And that it was his work with the Eleven Labs AI that got the vocals done for one of the other songs on our current album, right?

That's fine. But don't claim you are being "creative" by typing text on a screen and having a program do what the human creative faculties normally do when it comes to making a song.

Can you hear yourself? Do you not consider authors creative people? Because typing can be every bit as creative as playing an instrument. In fact, the vast majority of people who play an instrument aren't creative at all. They just learn how to play a few favourite things by rote and that's as far as they take it. Your idea of what's creative is not only extremely limited but wrong-headed at its root.

There's a big difference between a programmer creating an app versus some.joe blow typing text on a screen for an app to borrow from prior created works.

How do you think you create apps, if not by typing text onto a screen? In fact, AI has been really good at writing code for a while now. I reckon it will put Joe Blow out of work long before it does for us.

There's much more involved within the human faculty to create versus using a calculator to add numbers.

Yes, that's why creative accountants tend to end up in gaol.

Using AI apps to have it build a song is pretty much like using a calculator.

Right but did calculators put any mathematicians out of work? No, they didn't. This won't, either.

I'm not into driving on cruise control.

Ah, so not thinking things through is a common trait with you, then. I use cruise control all the time because it means I don't have to stare at the speedo constantly to make sure I'm not going to be caught speeding, which allows me to concentrate on the other aspects of driving like a maniac in traffic.

Cut the crap. AI has the potential to do what you claim if DAW and or plugin developers apply it but these AI subscription apps are f**king toys.

No they're not. As I mentioned, we used two different AIs to write lyrics and perform vocals on our last album and it worked a treat. And I used AI to inspire some of the other lyrics I wrote myself. It was also really good at finding rhyming phrases. It took all the drudgery out of writing lyrics and then doing a dozen takes until we're happy with the vocal performance. We told ChatGPT what we wanted to write about and it came up with much better lyrics than I would have, in a style I'd never have thought to use. Then, when I was having trouble working out how to fit the vox into the song, we used a different AI to perform them, just to give me some inspiration as to how to get it done. But it did such a great f**king job we decided to use it's vocal performance instead of bothering to do it myself. Far from stifling our creativity, it was a very useful tool in clearing creative roadblocks and helping our creative flow.

Mind you i do have my eyes on voice conversion but i still rely on my human creative faculties to make the vocal melody which builds the song.

That's probably why your music is so good you don't have a link to it in your signature. Try using AI, you might be able to create something you are proud to share.

Statistics: Posted by BONES — Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:47 am

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